(July 31, 2015 at 8:57 am)Little Rik Wrote:(July 30, 2015 at 1:03 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Very true Rob. Ask someone to explain what consciousness IS. We can explain its effects and perceptions, relation to brain, etc. But what IS it? Same with energy. What is it? Just because we don't know what it is doesn't means it's not real nor should we right off a person as an intellectual because they cannot explain it. The simple answer, "We don't know".
It is not true that WE do not know.
As you say WE you already admit that you are the consciousness.
Who is We or I then?
That is not the brain.
The brain is made of matter so it can't be it.
Who then other than YOU.
But the problem is not so simple especially when someone consciousness is not that strong.
The muscles can be very very weak and flaccid or can be very very strong or anywhere in the middle
according to our exercised or not exercises.
The consciousness works on similar lines.
If we make it stronger with our efforts then we will be able to understand who is who.
On the contrary if we do nothing then we may well confuse the consciousness with the brain or with nothing
and from nothing you get nothing real.
Consciousness is made in your brain, Rik. I still don't exactly see how that's possible, but you seem to be using language in some capacity and you are somehow getting it onto the internet, so I have to assume that you're a conscious human who is at least intelligent enough to use an electronic device.
Brains, Rik. The self comes from your brain. The maintenance of your systems comes from your brain. The idea of a permeating god consciousness comes from brains. The reluctance to admit wrongdoing and accept new information comes from your damn brain.
Burden of proof, Rik. It's on you. It's not up to us to prove you wrong. The title of your thread is so hypocritical it should make your eyes bleed.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com