(August 4, 2015 at 7:55 am)Brakeman Wrote:(August 3, 2015 at 11:47 am)Rekeisha Wrote: You assume that I am the only one that has heard from God since the Bible was written.
Since you have read the Bible you would have read that in Proverbs 30:6, Deut 4:2, Deut 12:32 and in Rev22:18-19 it strongly warns that no one is to add or subtract from God's word. So no I am not going to add to God's words
As for God not loving you because you don't belive in Him you would have read that in John 3:16 that it says that "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but Have eternal life." Also you have read in Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us"
My question to you is where does it say in the Bible that God only loves those who only belives in fairy tales?
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How would you define forgivness? How would you define justice?
I think you are misunderstanding Revalation's admonition. The bible is the complete word of god and individuals are not to add to it, but everything god says is supposed to be included in it. If it weren't, it wouldn't be the "complete" word of god. So you aren't supposed to add anything to it that god didn't really say, that'll get you smote or something, but if god REALLY met and spoke to you, the world needs to hear this addition to god's word. I'm sure the holy spirit will confirm your truths to all other true christians so that it will be added forthwith.
As for god hating unbelievers..
Quote:Question: "What is the unpardonable sin / unforgivable sin?"
Answer: The case of the “unpardonable sin/unforgivable sin” or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. The term “blasphemy” may be generally defined as “defiant irreverence.” We would apply the term to such sins as cursing God or willfully degrading things relating to Him. It is also attributing some evil to God, or denying Him some good that we should attribute to Him. This case of blasphemy, however, is a specific one called “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” in Matthew 12:31.
Since I don't believe in god or the holy spirit, I blaspheme when I attribute the claims of the holy spirit to be a mental delusion. This is something god says he won't forgive. He claims he hates it so much he's going to toss me in a lake of fire when I die to be tortured for all of eternity. That is a shit-load of hate. How much hate would it take to make you say to someone else that you want to torture them for billions of years in the worst pain imaginable??
I define forgiveness as the simple relinquishment of a debt, without any ancient blood rituals, or killing of innocents.
If I were to ask you to forgive me if I stepped on your toe, would you demand my eye to forgive me? Would you demand that I kill something valuable to me like my pet dog? Would you demand that kill your child? No. If a debt is owed, then additional demands by the debtee become payments of the debt and must be agreed to by the debtor.
I do not owe a debt to god because Eve ate a magic fruit. I am not Eve. I've never met god and I don't believe I owe him anything and I don't wish for him to hurt anyone or anything else to appease debts from myself. If I am guilty of a crime, I want to be punished for it fairly and not have an innocent man pay for my faults.
When the church speaks of the complete works of God we don't mean all the words of God that are spoken to His people but that the Bible has all the necessary parts. There are some really good book about the bible and about living the life has call every Christian to live but that doesn't mean that we should add them to the bible.
The bible has all the necessary parts for understanding who God is but if you cherry pick the Bible you will fall into error. So let me correct myself God both hates you and loves you. Let me explain. God is a Holy God in Isaiah and Revelation the angels chant that God is holy holy holy (Isaiah 6:3 and Rev 4:8). The word holy appearing 3 times is an exclamation of the fact that God is completely and totally Holy removed from anything sinful or profane. Now lets look at you. You already admit that you don't believe in God and that make you a fool (psalms 14:1). Romans 1:18-22 speaks about how with your denial of God your suppress the truth about God and He hates that. This is because when you suppress the truth about Him you are are promoting a lie. You are promoting evil instead of good. Rebellion instead of harmony. You are causing others to sin with your propaganda against God. He created you and gives you the breath in your lungs and you spit in his face call Him a tyrant and evil. It is you how are evil and it is you who set yourself up against a Holy and righteous God. Still in-spite of you being and enemy of God He died for you Romans 5:8. I don't know what enemy you are willing to die for. Who are you going to lay down your life for who spends their entire life in willful and in active opposition against you? See not only is God Holy but He is Just. Your active rebellion must be paid for. You can do it yourself and that would be hell or God in His mercy can take care of your debt. Jesus humbled Himself greatly for you in order to fix your relationship with Him. That is love. It isn't some emotion that makes you and other feel good it is a a total laying aside of wants wishes to seeking the betterment of someone else. God is love. So God can appease His hate for you by giving you His righteousness through the Holy Spirit that will be given to you if you accept his sacrifice for you on the cross. Or you can continue in your rebellion and God will pour His wrath on you. I hope that you would pray that God would grant you repentance so that you may repent and follow after Him.
