(August 5, 2015 at 5:55 pm)Javaman Wrote:(August 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It's not semantics at all.
We believe that IVF is immoral.
We still believe that all children are sacred and precious, and that a family is a sacred thing, regardless of how the children were conceived. So no, the Church does not teach that children conceived of IVF are "lesser" or that families consisting of children conceived form IVF are "lesser," as you claimed. I am sure you have a beautiful family.
But if you can't see the difference between the 2, then there's not much else I can say to you.
Then why all the fuss over the method? What's with the nonsense over the unbreakable connection between the unitive and procreative aspects of fucking?
You say the process by which my children were conceived is irrelevant. Your church says otherwise. Whose word should I take on the the matter....
It is irrelevant to a person's value as a human being. And again, no, the Church does not say otherwise. The Church teaches that every human life is sacred and worth the same. Period. Likewise, rape is a million times more immoral than IVF, but children who were brought into the world through rape are still precious beings who deserve all the same rights and is worth just as much as everyone else.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh