(August 5, 2015 at 8:34 pm)Javaman Wrote:(August 5, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: 1. Not sure what you mean. I was answering your question of "what does the Church teach", and answered it to the point. Not sure where the "just because" came from.
2. No one knows who went to hell, or who is going to hell. That doesn't mean we can't believe certain things are immoral. Judge the sin, not the sinner and all that.
3. I didn't copy and paste the paragraph that came right before that. They were saying it's less reprehensible when doing IVF involving only the married couple versus just using a stranger's egg/sperm and using a surrogate. It wasn't comparing it to rape, because rape is on a whole other level.
I (and others) have specifically asked why it's deemed immoral. Your response has been to claim "because the Church teaches it".
It appears you'd rather be evasive than provide straightforward answers to the various questions I've posed. So be it.
Two days ago I started a thread saying that I was not going to get into deep discussions about my faith anymore, as doing so has proven pointless anyway, and has brought out a lot of nastiness and rudeness.
I already gave my "short answer" to why we think IVF is not moral. If you are genuinely curious to know about it more in depth, use google lol. If I got the sense that you were asking out of genuine interest, and not just for an opportunity to argue, I would engage you. But I don't get that sense, I'm sorry.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
