Argument from Conscience

[Whateverist]

No, we all have our own standards of morality individually. That much is clear.

You keep implying Kingpin that it is logically possible to condemn someone with absolute certainty. Again, this is just the way you want things to be. Morality is a matter of discussion, and you can't even begin to decide what is moral and what is not until you decide what outcomes are important, and what is valuable. Otherwise it's one person giving out an arbitrary list.

I agree with you, Rob, that it is in our nature to deliberate on what is optimal or befitting.  We can't help doing so and it is important that we do it.  But I don't think deliberation is sufficient.  There is something which provokes the deliberation which to some degree we treat as brute facts.  Kingy and Chad, I think, would have that be an objective moral standard.  I think it is more a matter of the 'moral feel'.  There just is something yucky feeling about some prospective acts and satisfying about others.  Whether you try to pin that down with the bible or with a few carefully chosen principles, your success will be in the pudding.