(August 7, 2015 at 11:09 am)Whateverist the White Wrote:(August 7, 2015 at 10:10 am)robvalue Wrote: No, we all have our own standards of morality individually. That much is clear.
You keep implying Kingpin that it is logically possible to condemn someone with absolute certainty. Again, this is just the way you want things to be. Morality is a matter of discussion, and you can't even begin to decide what is moral and what is not until you decide what outcomes are important, and what is valuable. Otherwise it's one person giving out an arbitrary list.
I agree with you, Rob, that it is in our nature to deliberate on what is optimal or befitting. We can't help doing so and it is important that we do it. But I don't think deliberation is sufficient. However there is something which provokes the deliberation which to some degree we treat as brute facts. Kingy and Chad, I think, would have that be an objective moral standard. I think it is more a matter of the 'moral feel'. There just is something yucky feeling about some prospective acts and satisfying about others. Whether you try to pin that down with the bible or with a few carefully chosen principles, your success will be in the pudding.
Whateverist and Rob I agree with you on humans deliberating on moral acts, but as you correctly stated there is indeed something that provokes and that we "appeal" to. I will not speak for Chad or anyone else, but yes I prescribe that to us being made in the image of God and our character reflecting God's character. Others may not agree and that is perfectly fine, but the point is there is something in us all that we detect, but simply disagree on the source.
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
