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Why the fine tuning argument is a pile of shit
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RE: Why the fine tuning argument is a pile of shit
(August 7, 2015 at 12:02 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(August 7, 2015 at 11:08 am)robvalue Wrote: I'd call it barely tuned.

Why exactly does god have to live within these universal constants? Who set up that framework? They can't decide whether god made the rules or turned up one day constrained by them...

If he set up the framework in the first place, so that the best he could do is that a negligible number of planets could support life for a negligible amount of time, he's a fucking lame ass god.

Let's just say I'm god. I make the whole fucking thing, whatever I make, inhabitable! Wow, that was really hard, right? And I allow people to actually travel easily around in it, I don't glue them to a tiny rock. And... I could go on. Anyone could do a better job than this idiot. They must have a real low opinion of him, if they think this was planned.

I think we mean similar things. God should not be constrained in his creation to a framework where fine tuning is necessary to make a small part of it viabls, that's also your point, right? He would set up a framework where you can easily have a habitable world which doesn't need tweaking just so it doesn't desintegrate in a fiery explosion (which ours would if you e.g raise the up quark mass a bit just to name one catastrophic possibility)

Yeah you're right, I think we are saying the same thing!
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RE: Why the fine tuning argument is a pile of shit - by robvalue - August 7, 2015 at 1:10 pm

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