(August 9, 2015 at 2:47 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(August 9, 2015 at 2:18 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Pyrrho, is 100% wrong there, if somebody makes a claim you either believe it or you don't. If there is not enough information for the claim to be believed than by default it is disbelieved. Also believing god dosent exist is the default position when asking whether or not a god exists, i.e,
Person A says god exists
Person B can either believe this claim or not believe this claim until there is sufficient evidence to do so.
Person B says they don't know what a god is so they are not convinced that claim is true.
Person B has defaulted to the position of not believing the claim.
What a good deal of nonsense you are writing. You are confusing not having a belief with having one.
Imagine I have a wooden box that is the shape of a cube, with each side 2 feet wide. Suppose the idea is suggested that there might be a cat in the box. Well, the box is big enough for a cat, so a cat could be in there. But you cannot see inside the box, so you do not know that there is a cat in the box.
Consider the sentence:
"There is a cat in the box."
Now, do you believe that that is true? If so, you are believing without evidence. Do you believe it is false? If so, you are believing without evidence. It is equally irrational for you to say that there is a cat in the box, and for you to say that there is not a cat in the box. A reasonable person would say, "I do not know if there is a cat in the box." Idiots are people who affirm either that there is a cat in the box or that there is not a cat in the box, when they have no evidence one way or the other.
The same applies to whether there is a god or not. Until one has evidence one way or the other, saying that a god exists and saying that a god does not exist are both equally irrational. When one lacks evidence, one does not know.
WRONG! Not believing your claim that there is a cat in the box is not the same as believing there is not a cat in the box. I would not assert I believe there is no cat in the box, only that you haven't proven there is a cat in the box.
