Theists, what does faith mean to you?

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I'd like to say firstly that this discussion is very polite! Way too polite, so I want to say fuckweasels

Now that's out of the way, I wanted to make an observation. I think we're dealing with two entirely different approaches to beliefs and evidence. I'm not meaning to judge either, simply to observe.

CL, and the vast majority of theists I've ever talked to, are happy to accept evidence that is apparent only to them to justify their beliefs to themselves.

People like me (if there is anyone like me) would never be satisfied believing anything that they couldn't reasonably demonstrate to others; in other words the evidence is virtually useless if it can't be examined by someone else.

For the above reason, I would conclude that various strange things I've experienced are far more likely to be glitches in my system than something actually real. Someone in CL's group may instead interpret them as something real and form beliefs out of them.