Quote:Only the strike of wood can cause pain in groin. Prove it!
If you fail to prove it (and surely you would fail) then try to prove that ancient people did not make any statement about something on which they had firm knowledge. If you fail to bring some evidence on that either then simply agree that YOUR ARGUMENT IS WRONG.
Ok so you're using logic to come to the conclusion that people did know that striking the groin with wood would cause pain.
But yet you fail to see that people probably did know that burning may cause numbness to damaged skin using the exact same logic.
You gave me pictures of people being hit in the groin, I can give you more pictures and accounts of people using fire for cooking, people being tortured by fire, fire used in war, people using fire for light and for warmth and for boiling water in ancient times.
You say even though you can't find a written account saying wood in the groin causes pain it's logical.
I'm telling you that it is logical that people in ancient times knew that skin could go numb after burning because they would have experienced it and known the symptoms of it, that is much more logical than believing that a vague mention of burning and replacing skin is miraculous.
I know I've already told you this and you failed to understand it before because you then replied saying something along the lines of "But they didn't understand the mechanism of the numbness."
The quran gives no mechanism for the numbness, the quran actually doesn't mention numbness it just simply says the fire will hurt, the skin will be replaced and the person will taste punishment, but if you want to assume that the quran is talking about nerve damage from fire that's also not miraculous.
Numbness, sensation, pain, these things aren't explained in the quran beyond what ancient people knew, they experience fire from cooking, torture methods, execution, lighting, the boiling of water, they knew it caused pain.
You actually would have a hard time explaining why ancient people would not know the symptoms of 3rd degree burns. Why would an ancient person not know about it?
Do you at least agree that ancient people did experience 3rd degree burns? And do you not logically think that if they did experience it they would have experienced numbness on the burned skin caused by nerve damage?
I'm not asking did they know about nerve damage, I'm asking do you think ancient people experienced nerve damage because of fire ever?
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