(October 26, 2010 at 4:43 am)padraic Wrote:(October 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm)Chuck Wrote: So were most other mid-to-late Roman emperors starting around 200 AD, one possibly exception might be Julian the "Apostate".
Depends on how you define the word 'thug'. If you mean something like "brutally ruthless", the Julio-Claudians were a pretty rough bunch overall. In his early days, Octavius ( Caesar Augustus) was a real cunt. Tiberius had his moments,as did Caligula and Nero. Roman culture itself was pretty thuggish by our standards.
How can you say that? Octavian was perhaps THE best Emperor Rome ever had. I kind of understand where you're coming from, but you're thinking about them in too much of a modern moderate way, i mean just because someone is a thug it doesnt nessecarily denote that they're a complete cunt. You should question forethought of any violent action before you decide whether it may or may not have merit depending upon who gets their nose broken, if you know what im saying

As for Caligula though, he was a bit of a cunt. Although he some wisdom when he made his horse a senator- clearly trying to demonstrate that an animal would do a better job at governance than the rest of the senate.
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