(August 15, 2015 at 2:38 am)robvalue Wrote: I think it's sad that Randy pulls out atheist scholars to show how reliable they are when they believe in all the "facts" he wants to establish, and then quickly shoves them under the bus before any of us notice that all this understanding still doesn't cause them to believe in the resurrection. This second part validates our position, using his own chosen historians.
Because before I can argue with some of members of this forum about the resurrection, I first have to establish that Jesus even lived to begin with.
Quote:Why are Ehrman and O'Neil still atheists, if you respect their historical study so much?
Because they err LATER in the overall narrative. Mythicists err from the get-go.