Miracle

[paulpablo]

Interesting point is none of you guys can give a single historical reference on numbness, 3rd degree burn, and skin as pain receptor yet you adamantly reject Quran which evidently revealed the reality of skin at the time when all people were blaming “HEART” for their painful miseries after having experiences of burn.

The only difficulty I have with replying to you sometimes is that I don't know which thing to correct first.

It seems to me that in order to reach the conclusion of a miracle you have certain boxes that need ticking then according to you something is a miracle, but with total lack of thought about the topic you're talking about.

The quran doesn't mention skin as a pain receptor, neither do any other ancient documents.  The two words "Pain" and "Receptor" were never used in conjunction with each other in ancient time to describe what we now know as being a pain receptor.

At this time, neither Aristotle nor Hippocrates believed that the brain had any role to play in pain processing but rather implicated the heart as the central organ for the sensation of pain.[4]

Read this very very carefully.  This sentence implies that ancient people believed the heart was responsible for pain RATHER than the brain. The brain is the central organ responsible for sensation of pain being unpleasant and something to avoid.

This doesn't exclude the burning of skin being what would initially cause the pain.  There doesn't need to be any ancient documents to provide proof that ancient people knew burning their skin would cause them pain, the same way you don't need ancient documents to prove they would know being punched in the balls would hurt, it's just plain simple logic they would know about what they have experienced.


The quran doesn't exclude the heart being a central organ responsible for the sensation of pain, it doesn't say the heart doesn't sense that the skin is burned, it doesn't say the brain does sense the skin is burned, it simply says the skin is burned and it will cause pain.

If the heart WAS responsible for the sensation of pain the quran verse would still be totally 100% correct wouldn't it?

The only information given by the quran is a primitive threat of punishment void of ANY scientific knowledge whatsoever.  It says the skin is burned and causes pain, so the pain could be sensed by the heart, it could be sensed by the big toe, it could be sensed by a donkey, who knows?  The quran gives no information about what is sensing the pain, just that having your skin burned hurts and that is all.