(August 18, 2015 at 4:28 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:(August 18, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think you're having a hard time understanding my views on this because you're not seeing "an embryo" as a human being. You have to understand that I do. So let's take a five year old, for example (whom I'm sure you see as human), and let's say I was his mother. If the both of us got captured by terrorists and as a means to torture me, they held a gun to my head and said "either you kill your five year old, or you both will die." Would it be moral for me to do it? Is it moral to directly kill one innocent person in order to save another?
That's a false analogy.
I think you are missing the point that in an ectopic pregnancy the embryo has to be aborted in order for the mother to survive at all, so if we put this in terms of your analogy it would be more like the terrorist telling the mother "I'm going to kill your kid no matter what, but you have a choice of either taking a cyanide pill or having me flay you alive" and even that doesn't work as a cogent analogy of an ectopic pregnancy.
(BTW, your analogy also equates the doctor treating the woman with the ectopic pregnancy to a terrorist.)
My bold.
Not sure how I missed the bolded part before, but it is incorrect.
The terrorists in my analogy are being compared to the ectopic disorder itself, not with the doctor. But that is not the point of my analogy, anyway. The point was simply to show that I believe it is immoral to kill an innocent child, even if that child would die anyway and you would die right along with him if you didn't.
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