(August 26, 2015 at 5:42 pm)Napoléon Wrote:I said I'm for limitation and control. I'm willing to consider other ideas that I may not have thought of. Waiting period extension, fine. Background check strengthened, fine. No person to person sales (either individual or at gun shows) only sales through registered dealers, fine. Limiting types of guns sold, fine. Mandatory registration and a check system, fine. Re-evaluation of ownership qualification periodically, fine. The idea of banning all guns will never work so lets consider something at least constructive.(August 26, 2015 at 5:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You are not offering up any solutions, you are merely protecting an object as if it were a human with rights.
You know what?
I fucking agree with Brian wholeheartedly here.
Can we please stop with this bullshit 'guns don't kill people' argument? Yeah, we know already. People kill people. People with fucking guns kill people.
I'd have thought it blatantly fucking obvious.
Ofcourse not all gun owners are nutjob lunatics who go out shooting everyone. Nobody is even faintly suggesting that all gun owners are people without compassion. But it's time to wake up and smell the coffee. Hell, it's long since past that time.
As a society we have to run the place around those dickhead 1% of people who fuck things up for everyone else.
Whenever I see people say shit like "oh we should look into why people kill each other" or "we need to sort out mental health before implementing more gun control" blah blah fucking blah... It's nothing more than a deflection from the fact that the main fucking problem in all these discussions are guns, and the relatively easy access people have to them.
Why is it every time gun control gets brought up, the people who want to defend gun rights do everything they can to deflect attention away from the common denominator, the obvious elephant in the room?
The mind boggles me. What sane person actually has a reason to oppose better gun legislation besides "hurr durr I like guns".
By all means, I'm sure you do, but if even a small section of society abuses them at the rate they so clearly do, maybe it's time people really just grew up and got over the fact that guns are not conducive or necessary for a safe society.
I didn't use the "guns don't kill people" argument. I didn't try to deflect. I didn't express any opposition to better gun legislation. Thanks for insinuating that I did.
So, are either of you willing to discuss solutions other than ban them all?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
