RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
August 27, 2015 at 12:57 am
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2015 at 1:09 am by Shuffle.)
(August 20, 2015 at 4:08 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Nobody ever says "not all Christians are terrorists" or "not all Sikhs are terrorists". If we were living in the period after Operation Blue Star then we might be talking about Sikhs in the same way we talk about Muhammadans today. Air India Flight 182 anyone? Every religion has both "reasonable people" and "nut jobs", though to a nut job the reasonable people are the nut jobs I suppose.Um... 99% of killings by terrorist attacks were done by Muslims last year, and they are on track to do even more this year. I don't think a single incident can take precedence over 99%... do you?
(August 20, 2015 at 3:54 am)abaris Wrote: The reason why the nazi comparison comes up that often in that kind of discussion is the terminology used. First, the broad brush and then the actual terminology used in many cases. Many of those throwing muslim and Islam together are blindly repeating the talking points of their resident rightwing party or organisation, since it plays to their already existing prejudiices anyway. And these parties and organisations know exactly what they are doing.No, most of them do not deserve my respect. They worship a pedophile warlord that tells them to kill nonbelievers, and gays, and jews. They do not deserve the smallest amount of respect that I have to offer for anyone religious.
Also, I don't make that much of a distinction between racism and bigotry. The underlying concept is the same. Both are directed at particular groups of people, painting them as inferior or otherwise not deserving of the same respect as the hometeam, just because they belong to that particular group. And carried to it's extreme both have the same ugly result. Everything else is pure semantics.
Third, many people actually don't know what they are talking about. Especially the Western tabloids and networks splash it all over the headlines when a single Westerner is killed by ISIS. But the fact that they kill thousands of fellow muslims on their way to killing one Westerner isn't newsworthy. If one islamistic shootout happens, it's again all over the headlines and live reports are made. But none of these media outlets mentions the FBI- or Europol-statistics that show, only 4 to 5 percent of terrorist attacks in any given year, are carried out by religious extremists. And this low percentage isn't even Islamistic only.
That paints a wrong picture for people, who only inform themselves by using mainstream media. And it's important to point that out in any given discussion, since I've met and talked to people, who changed their minds after being presented with the real facts. One bigot less is always worth fighting for.
And can you please cite your sources. We don't need atheists to start saying unsubstantiated things on here now, do we?
Oh, and let me guess. Do you follow The Young Turks?
(August 19, 2015 at 9:50 pm)Ayen Wrote: It's more in response to how certain people treat Arabians post-9/11 than what anyone specifically said. I've seen plenty of people make dumb comments in regards to people just wearing a turban on a plane because they associate all of them with the various terrorist groups that are out there, but don't feel the same way of Caucasians after a mass shooting.Can you apostatize from being muslim? Yes, you can. Can you apostatize from your race? No, you can't. There for it is not racist to make any statements about muslims. Got it?
At the end of the day from what I can figure they're mainly responding to racism.
(August 19, 2015 at 10:30 pm)Ayen Wrote: I agree. It also doesn't help those who think Arab and Muslims are the same thing. You can be any race and still be a Muslim. The Boston Marathon Bomber for example definitely wasn't Arab.Does't help what, exactly? You? I agree, Arabs and Muslims are not the same thing. So what? Who said they were? Exactly! You can be any race and still be a Muslim. THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT RAC IST.
On the flip-side, you can be an Arab and think Islam is stupid.