(August 26, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You can't separate the two, Nestor. Lots of industrialized countries have crazy bastards. What they do not have is easy access to guns. Fuck the NRA. It makes a difference.I don't necessarily disagree with those claims, but I'm not sure exactly what is the point that you're trying to make in relation to homicide - unless you're exclusively concerned with gun violence? I do think that our gun culture is bat shit crazy, but let's not act like there weren't senseless murders prior to deinstitutionalization - in fact, there were more. This idea that there isn't enough gun control is a distraction from the root cause, which is that we as a society glorify violence and neglect those who need the most emotional and/or psychiatric care, including the causes of their mental anguish. The suggestion that the issue is not the people themselves but the weapon they choose, as Napoleon suggests, is silly. Gun violence is a problem here, but the murder rate, as far as I know, is not. That should tell us something.
As usual the answer is money. In the 70's we began the process of deinstitutionalization on the theory that they could be treated more "efficiently" in smaller group homes where their medication would be monitored. The problem there is that they forgot one thing. These people are crazy. They stop taking their meds. And when they do all hell breaks loose.
The wonderful 'Murrican health system that the republicunts swear existed before Obamacare was never very effective on mental health issues.
And here we sit.
In a sea of blood.
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