(August 29, 2015 at 2:39 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote: then it doesn't matter if John is alive and well for several years after Jesus meets his death.
Yes...but that is not what the books say.
Mark claims the godboy was baptized and then hightailed it for the "wilderness." Then it claims that after John was arrested jesus went into Galilee preaching the gospel. Before that, he didn't seem to do shit.
Matty makes similar claims. Jesus gets the holy soaking, goes and plays with the devil for a while and then hears John was arrested and picks up the flag. Even more clearly than "mark" it notes that "from that time onward, jesus began to preach."
Luke botches the whole story - dealing with it as a flashback of Antipas' after throwing in jesus' genealogy at a particularly questionable place.
Again, this stuff does matter. If xtians can't get their story straight why should anyone believe anything they say?
Well a Christian would say to you that Josephus made the mistake end of discussion. Plus most reconcile John's three passovers and therefore would date it around 33AD. And neither you or I know which of them (Mark or Josephus) made the mistake, or whether both of them made a mistake in the timing of the death of John.
This does not really affect the date that Jesus dies however. The synoptic gospels, the gospel of John, and Annals (Tacitus) all say that Jesus was killed under Pontius Pilate.
Also I'm not asking you to believe what Christians say, just what qualified unbiased historians say.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
