(August 31, 2015 at 6:22 am)Nestor Wrote:(August 27, 2015 at 7:01 am)Lucanus Wrote: This is a series of questions I always ask when people start talking about souls. I'd like to collect the local soul-believers' answers on this topic, but if you don't believe in souls, feel free to add more questions.1. The self; the faculty through which apprehension of sense data forms experiences that cohere and possess meaning.
2. Nothing that can be defined beyond calling it abstract... abstract-stuff? ...Which leaves it as, if not more, peculiar as getting to the bottom of whatever it is this matter-stuff is made of... because it's abstract. And thinking about the abstract in the abstract is hard.
3. Yes, in that it renders the material world rational, beautiful, and good to itself.
4. It remains to be discovered if the tools of science and philosophy, developed by the successive toil of selves actuating thoughts, will ever be capable of granting knowledge in full.
5. What is matter? What is it made of? How does it interact with the abstract? If it does, how can we measure its activity based on - or vice versa, apart from - its interactions with the abstract? If it doesn't, why should anyone feel the urge to commit to a dogma which only allows matter - whatever that is - to exist?
Makes sense and I kinda agree, except for the last point. Having a bit of a brain drain atm so I won't elaborate, but I think the distinction between matter and abstractions is pretty clear - in that the existence of matter is pretty self evident, even if we only define it axiomatically... I dunno lol, feel free to bash me
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
