(September 2, 2015 at 1:29 am)Tiberius Wrote:(September 1, 2015 at 9:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If you want to challenge it, be my guest. I'm too old.
That's irrelevant, the question was whether you thought it should be illegal. You've stated it should be because of complications with procreation, and when I pointed out that marriage isn't about procreation, you simply responded that it's currently illegal in all states. My only conclusion is that you believe that incest should be illegal because it's already illegal. That's not really a rational argument that I'd expect from you Min, and I'm disappointed that don't seem to have a response to my challenge (without resorting to tradition and current laws, why should siblings be prohibited from marrying?).
Quote:BTW, you'll be proving the christards right when they said gay marriage would open the doors to polygamy, bestiality and incest.
I don't really care. In the past when they brought it up my standard response was "so what?" anyway. I'd rather let them be right than compromise the integrity of my arguments. If we use an argument for gay marriage but then use it against incestuous marriage, we are just as bad as the anti-gay bigots.
Oh, and as others have pointed out, bestiality does not involve consenting parties, so it's an entirely different issue (comparable with child marriages).
I just wanna say I appreciate your consistency. Even when I disagree, I can respect/understand someone's point of view when they are consistent in their argument.
I probably stand in the same position as you in regards to this. If a bro and sis want to get legally married by the state, then so be it.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a second here ask, why do we need consent from animals to do this type of stuff? (Not saying I think it should be ok, I definitely don't, lol. just trying to think about this objectively and not as someone who thinks it's disgusting and wrong.)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh