BEASTIALITY

[Napoléon]

This is my issue with every singe bodily harm and consent argument.

And the person who said the MAJORITY of bodily invasions we perform on animals are helpful to them, like taking them to the vet, just no. Incorrect The vast majority of animals that humans own are mistreated quite badly, and then killed without any thought for their desires or comforts.

I don't think you actually understand the argument.

It's not really about whether or not animals are actually mistreated, or caused harm. I saw you refer to 'food animals'. I'm sure the vast majority of people on this forum agree that some of the ways in which animals are treated are absolutely abhorrent. I think most everyone agrees with that.

What is different is one is a sort of necessary evil. Many people, myself included eat meat. Do we like the fact that animals all over the world are slaughtered? Personally, no, I don't. But I see eating meat as something that humans will inevitably do and in some respects have a right to do. The animal food industry supports millions of people across the globe and it's flagrantly naive to ask that everyone become vegetarian. But that's another thread topic altogether.

Does it make me a hypocrite though that I'm fine eating meat, but think it's bad to let a dog eat peanut butter off my dick? Ummm, how the fuck do we reach that conclusion?

I eat meat, ergo I think it's fine to do bad things to/with animals? Nope. I'm sure most rational people want their meat to come from animals that were treated humanely, and with some modicum of care.

Nobody has actually ever made the argument that the majority of animals are treated well. Quite the contrary, the majority of people I know are absolutely horrified by the way animals are treated across the world.

But I don't see where the hypocrisy is? People do get outraged over animal injustices. Believe it or not, meat eaters are capable of caring for animals. But we're sitting here like raping an animal and killing it for food are two entirely similar things, with similar purposes.

If it was okay for people to kill animals then we wouldn't have tons of regulations for how they can do it. Guess what though, we do. There's all kinds of standards and rules out there that are intended to protect animals, and regardless of whether or not they are upheld, they're there. Which means there is not actually a double standard, as far as the law goes.

So this notion that there's a level of hypocrisy is not a very clever one. It outright assumes that people are ok with doing all this other evil shit to animals, but we draw the line at fucking them. That's demonstrably not the case and not too far from a straw man of the entire argument against bestiality.