RE: Miracle
September 2, 2015 at 7:09 pm
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2015 at 7:13 pm by bennyboy.)
(September 2, 2015 at 3:35 pm)Harris Wrote: Sure, if a law book gives reference to some scientific fact then the purpose of that reference is to augment the meaning of “LAW.” That reference do not serve to provide in depth understanding on that scientific reference, for that there are science books.Except the things you quoted are references to observation, and to poor interpretations of them. . . there's no evidence that they are references to real science, or that God was requried in order for those interpretations to be made.
Quote:Regarding clay, think about the food that all living beings are consuming. This food whether in form of herbs or flesh is the product of soil and water. Look at the chemistry of human body and you will realise that all the elements of human body in fact are similar to the elements found in soil and water. We are not getting something unusual from the heavens that is nurturing our bodies rather we are consuming soil and water in different organic forms and when we die we go back to that same soil and turn out to be soil after sometime.To say that clay turns into semen isn't science. At best, it shows an awareness that the body is sustained with materials from the Earth-- another easily-observable phenomenon.
Quote:I do not know any mythology, which points to some present world scientific fact that was not known only 200 years back in time. In case you know such a mythology then I would really appreciate if you share this valuable knowledge with everyone.No, but they can all be INTERPRETED and spun to represent scientific fact if one is as willing to do so as you are.
Quote:As for logic, is there any better logic than:"I don't know therefore Allah" is not a logical improvement.
• There is nothing called “Nothingness”
• There is nothing called “Chance”
• There is nothing without a “Cause”
Perhaps, it is time for you to recheck your logic.
Quote:Yes, anyone can see the difference between two patches of colour. However, for such observation you have to have two patches of colour.Dude, seriously. Buy a couple bus tickets, go to the sea at the mouth of a river, and tell me what you see.
Quote:Have you any idea how big Arabian Desert is? Do you know Saudi Arabia is 15th largest country in the world by area, which is part of Arabian Desert? Do you know there is no river in the whole of Arabian Desert that may fall into some sea and cause Halocline?Do you know that thousands of years before Muhammed was born, the Romans and Greeks had established links with Europe, Africa and Asia, and collected libraries full of information about the world? Do you know that people had the ability to travel? Do you know that Muhammed had language, and therefore had plenty of access to all kinds of knowledge outside the Arabian Desert?
Quote:“Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? … ”It's their way of saying that everything was made by God. This is not a surprising position for monotheists to take. It's also hopelessly imprecise and lacking any detail that could confirm that it represents a knowledge of the Big Bang or anything else that is scientific.
Al Anbiyaa' (21)
-Verse 30-
Quote:Why only Quran is mentioning about that darkness and about deep ocean currents? Why not anyone else?Hmmm. . . maybe because millions of texts were burned in Alexandria and other places? Maybe because it's so obvious to anyone familiar with oceans that nobody bothered to make a point of it?
A lack of evidence that people knew about the obvious and easily-observable isn't really good support for the miraculous nature of the Quran. It is much better support for the nature of Time.
Quote:Alright then, give your version of commentary to the following verse."God made everything, cuz he's the shizzit." Not science. Not a miracle.
“With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace.”
Adz-Dzaariya (51)
-Verse 47-PM Find