(September 3, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Divinity Wrote:(September 3, 2015 at 12:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think there's a difference between animals and people though. For example, we don't euthanize mentally handicapped people when they are very ill and near death.
There are other things we do to animals without their consent that we would never do to people. That's why I think the argument about consent isn't consistent unless you really do think it's wrong to do anything negative to an animal without their consent.
Of course I think it's wrong to do something negative to an animal without their consent.
For example, my daughter (who is an avid animal rights activist, and a vegetarian.) brought to my attention how Fois Gras is often made. They forcefeed ducks, and it's pretty fucked up. I'd hope others would agree. People will make excuses for it, but they're mostly bullshit.
We put animals down when they're in bad health and can't recover in order to relieve their suffering. Which is why I'm also for the legalization of Euthanasia for those who have no chance for recovery.
I agree with you about the thing with ducks. I agree about the mistreatment of farm animals and I always buy organic, humanely raised meats.
But I don't think it's necessarily wrong to kill and eat animals without their consent. And I don't think it's wrong to euthanize a pet who is very ill without their consent, though I do think it would be wrong to do the same thing to a mentally handicapped person without their consent.
Do you think it's wrong to kill/eat animals without their consent? Do you think it would be ok to euthanize a terminally ill mentally handicapped person?
If your answers are consistent, it'll help me understand your argument.
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