(November 7, 2010 at 4:34 pm)chatpilot Wrote: There is no such thing as free will with God, it's more like his will or else! So how do you interpret that as free will? That is more like an ultimatum, serve me or die and suffer eternally in hell. That makes him an even bigger dick in my book. By human standards God is no different than Hitler or any other psychotic tyrant that has ever walked the Earth. Free will is letting you as an individual do as you please and not suffer any consequences for doing so. There are plenty of good people who lives long and fruitful lives and they do it completely without God.I agree Chat. Theists have never reconciled god with freewill. If you are a fundamentalist you are told, in the only part of the bible that an ALL powerful being authored, that you are to obey 10 rules (amongst the 613 in total) else suffer for it. Then we are told humankind has freewill. I'm not sure about you but if I beleived an ALL powerful being told me not to do 10 things, I probably wouldn't exercise my frewill to say envy my next door neighbours donkey (commandment 10). I have never been able to see how any theist reconciles this with free will. Of course the other issue is why would the creator of the entire universe with 4 bn galaxies each containing 4 bn stars and the fine tuner of life and everything think it important that we don't lust after donkeys.....still not our problem!
I give up on the whole Adam and Eve thing since you don't seem to get it, so just keep on enjoying your twisted beliefs and delusions Godschild. I learned long ago that talking to a Christian is like talking to the wall, it just stares back at you blankly like a deer in the head lights of a car.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
