Marko - You sound (so far) much more respectful than most of the Believers we get, so I think you might actually fit in just fine, if you have a thick skin (some nonbelievers are more aggressive than others at "counter-attacking" against Believers, since they've felt oppressed by religion all their lives and finally have a safe place to sling poo in return), and if you are intellectually honest (that is, you don't put forth ideas that are demonstrably false and then expect us not to call you on that, since we call each other on any assertion similarly demonstrably false).
You're off to a much better start than most. Welcome.
You're off to a much better start than most. Welcome.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
