RE: Shroud of Turin
November 12, 2010 at 11:48 am
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2010 at 11:55 am by Minimalist.)
Copying from an earlier post on this subject, I draw your attention to this line:
In the Museum Cluny in Paris, the coats of arms of this knight and his widow can be seen on a pilgrim medallion, [b]which also shows an image of the Shroud of Turin.
After some digging I found a photo of this medallion.
![[Image: Shroud_of_Lirey_Pilgrim_Badge.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F1%2F14%2FShroud_of_Lirey_Pilgrim_Badge.jpg)
As you can see, it shows a full front and back vision of the shroud and certainly dates from a time prior to Secondo Pia's "discovery" of the image as a result of taking a photograph and "discerning" an image on the negative.
Got a link, Shel?
True, Chuck, except one has to keep rapping believers over the head with the obvious. In this instance we do know what the Romans used crucifixion for and how they used it. Rebels and slaves suffered crucifixion. Common criminals were executed in the arena.
In the Museum Cluny in Paris, the coats of arms of this knight and his widow can be seen on a pilgrim medallion, [b]which also shows an image of the Shroud of Turin.
After some digging I found a photo of this medallion.
![[Image: Shroud_of_Lirey_Pilgrim_Badge.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F1%2F14%2FShroud_of_Lirey_Pilgrim_Badge.jpg)
As you can see, it shows a full front and back vision of the shroud and certainly dates from a time prior to Secondo Pia's "discovery" of the image as a result of taking a photograph and "discerning" an image on the negative.
Quote:I recently wrote an article about "Our Lady of Fatima"
Got a link, Shel?
Quote:When the entire thing is thoroughly rotten, it's hardly worth pointing that a particular part of it also happen to be rotten.
True, Chuck, except one has to keep rapping believers over the head with the obvious. In this instance we do know what the Romans used crucifixion for and how they used it. Rebels and slaves suffered crucifixion. Common criminals were executed in the arena.