(September 15, 2015 at 8:47 am)Alex K Wrote:(September 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: "supernatural" is only defined as being inexplicable by natural law or "outside" natural law. The current hypotheses surrounding the beginning of the universe are currently supernatural or outside natural laws or require the natural laws to "not apply". Supernatural can be a place holder until a verifiable natural law can explain the perceived phenomena but super-naturalism in itself is not false.
What is natural law, lkingpinl?
The natural laws that govern the universe and its properties, that are testable and repeatable. As I mentioned, the current presumptions and hypotheses presented for the beginning of the universe (most notably by Hawking) require the breakdown of the natural laws and that is why I call it "supernatural". Now granted, it is of course conjecture, postulating unknowns, but the current best theories out there can be defined as supernatural by it's mere definition.
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