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Presumption of naturalism
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RE: Presumption of naturalism
(September 15, 2015 at 9:20 am)ChadWooters Wrote:
(September 15, 2015 at 1:51 am)Esquilax Wrote: Sorry, but why do we need a placeholder for the beginning of the universe at all, much less one as loaded as "supernatural"? Isn't "insufficient data," a cogent enough description of the state of affairs?

And what is that thing for which there is insufficient data? We can have an unclear picture of something while still acknowledging its existence.

We do acknowledge the existence of that thing: the point beyond the Planck time must have happened, after all. We just don't currently have the technology or vocabulary to measure it, and so attempting to assert some supernatural or divine force beyond it is completely unjustified. When you have an known unknown that's potentially filled with a series of other unknown unknowns, there's simply no reason to start putting labels on it.

robvalue Wrote:I think I may have been bitten by WLC. I'll go see my doctor. I don't know if I'm making sense any more or just throwing scrabble tiles around.

Make sure you keep a couple copies of the God Delusion around; if you start affirming the consequent around the full moon then you may have become a WereCraig.
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Messages In This Thread
Presumption of naturalism - by Captain Scarlet - September 14, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Kingpin - September 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by robvalue - September 15, 2015 at 1:42 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Kingpin - September 15, 2015 at 9:07 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by robvalue - September 15, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Kingpin - September 15, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Esquilax - September 15, 2015 at 1:51 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Kingpin - September 15, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Neo-Scholastic - September 15, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Cato - September 15, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Esquilax - September 15, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Kingpin - September 15, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Captain Scarlet - September 15, 2015 at 6:33 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Alex K - September 15, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by Kingpin - September 15, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by bennyboy - September 14, 2015 at 8:30 pm
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by robvalue - September 15, 2015 at 10:24 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by robvalue - September 15, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Presumption of naturalism - by robvalue - September 15, 2015 at 10:49 am

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