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A practical definition for "God"
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RE: A practical definition for "God"
Quote:It's eye-opening to read the prophesies that were fulfilled at a later time and documented by different writers.

Odd that the jews have a different take on that, isn't it?  It is, after all, their book.

http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm

Quote: Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16)

The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).


Quote: What About Jesus?
Jews do not believe that Jesus was the mashiach. Assuming that he existed, and assuming that the Christian scriptures are accurate in describing him (both matters that are debatable), he simply did not fulfill the mission of the mashiach as it is described in the biblical passages cited above. Jesus did not do any of the things that the scriptures said the messiah would do.
On the contrary, another Jew born about a century later came far closer to fulfilling the messianic ideal than Jesus did. His name was Shimeon ben Kosiba, known as Bar Kokhba (son of a star), and he was a charismatic, brilliant, but brutal warlord. Rabbi Akiba, one of the greatest scholars in Jewish history, believed that Bar Kokhba was the mashiach. Bar Kokhba fought a war against the Roman Empire, catching the Tenth Legion by surprise and retaking Jerusalem. He resumed sacrifices at the site of the Temple and made plans to rebuild the Temple. He established a provisional government and began to issue coins in its name. This is what the Jewish people were looking for in a mashiach; Jesus clearly does not fit into this mold. Ultimately, however, the Roman Empire crushed his revolt and killed Bar Kokhba. After his death, all acknowledged that he was not the mashiach.
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A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 15, 2015 at 3:15 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 16, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by houseofcantor - September 16, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 16, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Salacious B. Crumb - September 17, 2015 at 12:44 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 17, 2015 at 4:26 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 17, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Crossless1 - September 17, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by brewer - September 16, 2015 at 9:24 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Salacious B. Crumb - September 17, 2015 at 12:43 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 17, 2015 at 3:32 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 17, 2015 at 5:26 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Minimalist - September 17, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by MTL - September 17, 2015 at 7:10 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 17, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by MTL - September 17, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 17, 2015 at 6:47 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 17, 2015 at 7:17 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by MTL - September 17, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 18, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by MTL - September 18, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 22, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 18, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by MTL - September 18, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by MTL - September 18, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2015 at 7:20 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 17, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Minimalist - September 17, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 18, 2015 at 3:06 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Lek - September 22, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 19, 2015 at 5:21 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by houseofcantor - September 19, 2015 at 6:38 am
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 24, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by timrees - September 25, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Kingpin - September 25, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by timrees - September 25, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Kingpin - September 25, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by timrees - September 25, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 25, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Kingpin - September 25, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 25, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 25, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 25, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by timrees - September 25, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by robvalue - September 25, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by Nay_Sayer - September 25, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: A practical definition for "God" - by ignoramus - September 26, 2015 at 9:23 am

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