RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
September 17, 2015 at 11:37 pm
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2015 at 12:00 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
Redbeard, that outstanding analysis deserves a waffle. It's not a Welcome Waffle™... it's just tasty-and-good. 
A blue waffle for my pink brother-in-intellect:
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We're trying to tell you exactly that, Rekeisha.
We weren't just "members of a group". We really believed, as firmly as you did, that we were "in a relationship with Jesus Christ, our Savior". We spread the Gospel of the death and resurrection to others, as commanded in the Great Commission. Heck, Redbeard got a giant cross tattoo, as many of the True Believers™ do.
For you to tell us that we were never Christians is deeply insulting and frankly, it makes you a jerk to even think it.
We believed as you do. Now we do not. Get over it, swallow some pride, and get over yourself.
A blue waffle for my pink brother-in-intellect:
(September 17, 2015 at 10:53 am)Rekeisha Wrote: If I dress up like a man that doesn't make me a man. Being in a group doesn't make you a part of the group. You may feel as though your statments are in cinflict with my belifea but they are not. A christian is someone who knows God and has accepted His death and resserrction on the cross. If you never had a relationship with Him then you were never a christian.
We're trying to tell you exactly that, Rekeisha.
We weren't just "members of a group". We really believed, as firmly as you did, that we were "in a relationship with Jesus Christ, our Savior". We spread the Gospel of the death and resurrection to others, as commanded in the Great Commission. Heck, Redbeard got a giant cross tattoo, as many of the True Believers™ do.
For you to tell us that we were never Christians is deeply insulting and frankly, it makes you a jerk to even think it.
We believed as you do. Now we do not. Get over it, swallow some pride, and get over yourself.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
