(September 22, 2015 at 8:22 pm)Pizza Wrote:(September 22, 2015 at 5:40 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I'd be delighted to hear an articulate explanation of why anyone would care two hoots about slaughtering a few million people if there was no compelling objective moral reason for them not to do so if they honestly believed it was in their own interest or that of the nation which they were trying to build.God you are dumb. Not all atheists are moral anti-realists, most moral anti-realists aren't murderous egoists, and to learn more moral realism vs moral anti-realism read something other than canned apologetics. Read this for starters -> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-anti-realism/
Alpha males get to mate with all the females. Alpha dictators get to kill off all the males who disagree with him.
Alphas get to what? Wow. Good thing we humans evolved a sense of empathy and started forming monogamous mate pairs, interconnected-extended-faimly- and tribal-units, as a way of striving to rise above our animal natures! You know where most the human Alphas are, for the main part? Prison. Those who can't reason beyond their animal instincts go there.
Have y'all noticed that every time we get into a "what is the atheist's view of the nature of morality" discussions, it takes about ten minutes for the fundie to admit that they'd be a raping, murdering psychopath if not for God?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
