(October 7, 2015 at 2:04 am)snowtracks Wrote:(October 7, 2015 at 12:23 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Wut?Simply, scientific collaboration that the Bible accurately proclaimed the fundamental features of big bang cosmology
How in the world does the model we have used for decades for cosmology, in which fusion reactions created all the heavy elements, starting from just H/He/Li, "validate[] the biblical account", just because we finally located the type of stars we knew had to be out there based on the mathematical models?
You're perfectly entitled to think that God caused the Big Bang to start, but it doesn't follow that finding physical evidence of the post-BB processes we have supposed by mathematical modeling since the days of Ed Hubble equates to Biblical accuracy.
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A singular beginning of matter, energy, space, and time
Ongoing expansion since that beginning
Constant laws of physics
A pervasive law of decay that implies a continuously cooling cosmos
Horse shit. It actually proves that the Apache creation story is true:
Quote:In the beginning nothing existed--no earth, no sky, no sun, no moon, only darkness was everywhere.
Suddenly from the darkness emerged a thin disc, one side yellow and the other side white, appearing suspended in midair. Within the disc sat a small bearded man, Creator, the One Who Lives Above. As if waking from a long nap, he rubbed his eyes and face with both hands.
When he looked into the endless darkness, light appeared above. He looked down and it became a sea of light. To the east, he created yellow streaks of dawn. To the west, tints of many colours appeared everywhere. There were also clouds of different colours. ...
Or was it the Hindu creation story?
Quote:The Hindu creation myth says that before this time began, there was no heaven, no earth and no space between. A vast dark ocean washed upon the shores of nothingness and licked the edges of the night.
A giant Cobra floated on the waters. Asleep within its endless coils lay the Lord Vishnu. He was watched over by the mighty serpent. Everything was so silent and peaceful that Vishnu slept undisturbed by dreams motion. From the depths a humming sound began to tremble, Ohm. It grew and spread, filling the emptiness and throbbing with energy. ...
Man, I just can't quite tell which of the kooky "light from the darkness", "form from the void" stories this proves!
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