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Worthy of worship, free will?
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RE: Worthy of worship, free will?
(October 7, 2015 at 10:10 pm)Little lunch Wrote:
(October 7, 2015 at 9:42 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Free will is an illusion. The human brain makes decisions three seconds before we are consciously aware of it.
Our consciousness is forever playing a game of catch-up it will never win. We will never know the full motivations behind our decisions because there are too many factors to be conscious of. Our minds weave a narrative to maintain the illusion of conscious control.

It's almost like your saying that sub-consciousness has free-will.

My idea of free will is that someone could take you back in time, reset your mind to that point and you might do something different.
I think the sub-conscious mind is even more incapable of randomness then our conscious minds.


There is a profound difference between free will, and random or unpredictable will.   If your mind is reset, and it produces a different outcome, that but implies random will.   If that is equal to fre will, then an electron has free will because our best description of it suggests if you were to reset all condition that is possible to reset, it would do something differently.

For your will to be truly free, it would have to be in principle demonstratable that in a particular circumstances, you could have accurately predicted what you would have adone, But no other agent whatsoever could even theoretically have predicted accurately what you would do, even it had a perfect chemical and physical model of the behavior of all your elementary particles, and as accurate as theoretically possible an measure of the initial state of all your elementary particles.
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Worthy of worship, free will? - by Captain Scarlet - September 15, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Reforged - October 7, 2015 at 9:42 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Little lunch - October 7, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Reforged - October 7, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Anomalocaris - October 7, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Reforged - October 7, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by brewer - October 7, 2015 at 9:51 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 10:35 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 4:22 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by ignoramus - October 8, 2015 at 4:42 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Little lunch - October 8, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2015 at 8:48 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 9:56 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 10:06 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Reforged - October 11, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 7:06 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 12, 2015 at 7:09 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 12, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 12, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 7:19 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 12, 2015 at 9:11 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by bennyboy - October 12, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Worthy of worship, free will? - by Edwardo Piet - October 12, 2015 at 2:21 pm



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