(March 1, 2009 at 9:56 pm)Becki Wrote: do you have any proof of macroevolution in nature?I already pointed to this website for observed instances of speciation (what scientists call "macro" evolution). As I have pointed out before, if you take "macro" evolution as you define it, the change of one species into another, then all you need to do is see that the difference between two species is the fact that they cannot interbreed and produce fertile offspring. There don't need to be many mutations for that to take place.
Quote:No, moths are at the end of another branch of the "tree of life". We share a common ancestor with them that goes way back in time. To say we are "more evolved" than a moth is to put some kind of goal on Evolution, which it doesn't have. Evolutionarily speaking (not sure if that phrase exists
and you pointed out some very good points in anwser of my question. "...we are no more special than the humble badger..." So we are just more evolved than a moth.
) all animals are "equal", we are all products of evolution, we just took different paths.Quote:What a sad way to think.Leads to some scary actions, too. It's no coincidence that Hitler was very intrigued by Darwin's writings.Ah yes, the standard "Evolution leads to Hitler" argument, which fortunately isn't true. Hitler used the idea of a French count, Arthur de Gobineau, who invented the term "eugenics". He advocated "racial purity" by means of "social Darwinism". Darwin's theory proposed natural selection, keyword there is "natural". Hitler wanted to intervene and replace nature with humanity. Whilst it is true that Darwin was racist by today's standards, so was everyone else back then. You would be hard pushed to not find a wealthy English man who didn't think himself higher than other races.But thanks so much for answering me. I appreciate it. Usually I get snubbed.
Anyway, I'm not going to argue that science doesn't lead to some bad things. If you can claim Evolution led to the Holocaust, you can claim that gravity led to many deaths in World Wars. Without understanding gravity, we wouldn't know how to build planes, drop bombs, fire artillery accurately, etc. Science can be used for good and for bad, but scientific truths don't have any opinion themselves. Evolution tells us where we come from, not what to do about it.
Oh, and I hope you don't mind, but sangreal2999 is going to have to withdraw due to work she has to do at uni. Since she hasn't made any points yet, atrasicarius will be her replacement.
