No worries MNMP.
I only assume that, because a large portion of people view them as the "Islamic kingdom of today"; and take their acts as a proof on what Islam is.
But actually you're mistaken; Allah annihilated the people of Ad pretty quickly, the saggy army of the Sauds is struggling to win a war against a tribal militia that doesn't even has an air force & wear flip-flops instead of boots.
But I get your meaning
Indeed, that applies to God, being the wisest judge. But you have many other verses that can give you a huge insight on what awaits a certain fella in the afterlife.
A verse like this :
( Sura 5 Verse 32 ) Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
(Sura 17 Verse 33 ) And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he has been supported [by the law].
Anyhow, we already know that for a person to kill a soul, they actually killed of mankind. That's a huge amount of sins.
Above all, if somebody is forging Islam into a Wahhabi cult to cover up their "massacres" in places like Yemen, it's direct infidelity that lead nowhere but to hell.
My point is, you can pretty much know how God judges from what he "forbids" on you. If a certain sin leads to hell, and yet you keep doing it until you die; then you shall get what was promised : Hell.
The benefit of the doubt is given due to our lack of knowledge in either the person repented or not. And you cannot repent shortly before dying.
Other meanings are there instead of "smokeless" fire; actually the two sentences that described the Jinns' main components were :
1-Extreamly hot wind (نار السموم)
2-Bright Torch with strong flames- Pure flame with no smoke.
Plasma might be a possibility, just guessing ..but that's "utter guessing".
But I'm sure we'll see them someday, either in this life, or the next.
The opinions on this matter (along with the Tafsirs) are based on a Hadith, that's my whole problem against it.
Quote:I'm not sure I'd consider the Saudis dedicated believers considering how many barbaric sex acts (and then claimed diplomatic immunity for), and well, crime in general, Saudi royalty has committed recently. They treat the people of the Yemen like Allah treated the people of Ad.
I only assume that, because a large portion of people view them as the "Islamic kingdom of today"; and take their acts as a proof on what Islam is.
But actually you're mistaken; Allah annihilated the people of Ad pretty quickly, the saggy army of the Sauds is struggling to win a war against a tribal militia that doesn't even has an air force & wear flip-flops instead of boots.
But I get your meaning
Quote:But I'm not Allah. So I'm not qualified to judge believers. And neither are you. Allah might happen to think that most Saudis are perfectly good believers, but we don't know that. We are not the best of judges, correct?
Quran 95:8 Is not Allah the wisest of judges?
Maybe I will join the al-Saud family in the hellfire or maybe they will end up in Jannah. Or maybe I will be in Jannah whilst the al-Saud family is in the hellfire. It would be a shame if the al-Saud family made to Jannah. But none of us know if that will happen, and to claim otherwise is wrong.
Indeed, that applies to God, being the wisest judge. But you have many other verses that can give you a huge insight on what awaits a certain fella in the afterlife.
A verse like this :
( Sura 5 Verse 32 ) Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
(Sura 17 Verse 33 ) And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he has been supported [by the law].
Anyhow, we already know that for a person to kill a soul, they actually killed of mankind. That's a huge amount of sins.
Above all, if somebody is forging Islam into a Wahhabi cult to cover up their "massacres" in places like Yemen, it's direct infidelity that lead nowhere but to hell.
My point is, you can pretty much know how God judges from what he "forbids" on you. If a certain sin leads to hell, and yet you keep doing it until you die; then you shall get what was promised : Hell.
The benefit of the doubt is given due to our lack of knowledge in either the person repented or not. And you cannot repent shortly before dying.
Quote:The Quran says this in relation to Jinns:
Quran 15:27 And the Jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.
Also Quran 55:15:
And He created Jinns from fire free of smoke:
So we would expect to see evidence of Jinns because fire is a result of chemical reaction. Fire is not a substance in same way say, Carbon or plastic is. But we do not see evidence of Jinns.
Other meanings are there instead of "smokeless" fire; actually the two sentences that described the Jinns' main components were :
1-Extreamly hot wind (نار السموم)
2-Bright Torch with strong flames- Pure flame with no smoke.
Plasma might be a possibility, just guessing ..but that's "utter guessing".
But I'm sure we'll see them someday, either in this life, or the next.
Quote:Edit:
In regard to Satanic Verses incident, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there are Tafsir that claim that Quran 22:52 was revealed by Allah because Satan tricked people by revealing the verses about the Pagan goddesses. So some well known scholars acknowledge the incident.
http://quranx.com/Tafsirs/22.52
Quran 22:52 Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
The opinions on this matter (along with the Tafsirs) are based on a Hadith, that's my whole problem against it.
