RE: Worthy of worship, free will?
October 12, 2015 at 7:06 am
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2015 at 7:10 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(October 8, 2015 at 12:19 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 11:29 am)Evie Wrote: The will=willpower and "free will" can be considered a synonym for "free choice" the point is that your choices are not free.
and you seem to basically be saying (A puppet is free as long as he loves his strings).
No, I'm saying what you call strings are themselves a part of the self. It is the self which is arguably the illusion, not the free will.
What do you think the will is supposed to be free from? Itself? The environment? The laws of causation? You are basically saying, "You're not really free, because you have to be you."
I am merely rejecting libertarian free will. Because it's absolutely ridiculous. I'm saying that the idea that we could have ultimately determined ourselves to do otherwise and that we are the ultimate causes of our actions is absurd. If determinism is true we can't have that power and if indeterminism is true we can't have that power.