RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist
October 16, 2015 at 12:32 pm
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2015 at 12:34 pm by bennyboy.)
(October 16, 2015 at 12:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Like, when you claim that materialism -cannot- be true?I didn't say your view cannot be true. I said it cannot be fundamental to all reality.
Quote:Quote away.Quote:I haven't made an argument in this form.Yes, you have, many times.....you're doubling down on it this very moment. Perhaps I should quote you, and you can make modifications and retractions........perhaps you didn't mean to....that's kind of been my operating assumption this entire time, the sole reason for and subject of my involvement in the thread.
Quote:I will explain to you again. It is wrong because we can plug in true propositions and still yield a false outcome. It is wrong because it violates the stated function of logic. That is why a fallacy is a fallacy, no other reason in specific.I haven't made assertions about what is true-- only about what I can experience.
Quote:Materialists make no such assumption. That they exist in a particular fashion is a statement regarding our observations of the material. We didn't assume that atoms existed, or that subatomic particles existed - we observed them.You are still confusing the existence of things with their underlying nature. Okay, so we've discovered wave functions vibrating in space-- to me, hardly a bastion of strength for the materialist position but whatever. Now, tell me on what these supervene?
Quote:I doubt that you've managed to miss the point on accident so consistently.I doubt that you are actually going to offer me waffles. Maybe I should have gone with the odds and changed to door "B" while I still had the chance.