(October 16, 2015 at 3:25 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 16, 2015 at 1:42 pm)robvalue Wrote: I just got an email from science:
"We will be happy to study this 'god' of which you speak, as soon as you can tell us what it is, what you propose that it does, and what evidence there is that such a thing exists at all. Until then, I'm a very busy field of study so stop sending me these messages. Go bother theology."
which is why you cant look to science for wisdom its so limited unless your content with the limitations of science
Science is actually much less limited than religion is. Science can use a large number of processes and tools to demonstrate that its findings are correct, and the findings of science have granted us boons that religion has always promised and yet failed to deliver. Religion, on the other hand, is limited to rhetorical hoop-jumping and dishonesty, misrepresentation of evidence, fabrication of evidence, and ignorance of evidence in order to convince anyone of its tenets.
Yes, science does impose limitations in some regards, but those are primarily designed with the aim of parsing out real things from made-up bullshit. Religion, however, is limited to a presupposed narrative that it must assume to be true at all costs. Any way you slice it, religion is vastly more limited in scope and method than science is.
The most damning thing is that science has pretty well explained religion/god itself (why it exists, what makes it work, etc.) in naturalistic and easily demonstrated terms, and yet believers have been unable to put forward or prove a better explanation, instead clinging to the presupposition that Gaud did it. Religion is also limited by the edge of science, since god by nature must crouch in the corners of scientific ignorance, shrinking a little more every time we learn something new.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com