RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
October 20, 2015 at 1:24 pm
(October 20, 2015 at 1:16 pm)alpha male Wrote:(October 20, 2015 at 1:09 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: I'm open minded enough to know that it isn't hard to retrofit the "facts" to match the alleged prophesies. Matthew was very good at that sort of thing. I'm not impressed. So?
So, if you agree that the OT shows the messiah as God, and you agree that the NT has Jesus claiming to be the messiah, then you disagree with the claim that "even the Bible says that Jesus was not God."
I disagree with the claim that the Bible says Jesus was not also God, since there are obviously passages that make the claim. I also pointed out that there is not one consistent Jesus presented in the NT and that Christians conflate the different sources to suit their purposes and only feel justified in doing so because each of the NT books has the stamp of orthodox approval. Lacking that, and presented with these books as the separate accounts they were before the NT was compiled and voted on, no honest reader would be able to conflate the accounts they way believers do.
And I pointed out that the Christian spin on the prophesies remains disputed by the Jews to this day.