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Quandary
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RE: Quandary
(October 22, 2015 at 10:21 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(October 21, 2015 at 5:52 pm)Cinjin Wrote: If God, the creator being, proved to exist it would plausibly (at least to me) mean a few things.  
One, that there is an afterlife of some sort.  After all, I don't foresee any other way of finding proof of God's existence in this current life of ours. Which means two, he made a plan for souls to move on into another form of existence.  It seems very unlikely that he's going to go to those lengths just to see tiny peons grovel for an eternity.  Would you care to make an ant bow before you - unlikely.

Neither of these are necessarily true, not to rain on your parade. They're assumptions you're making based on pre-existing god narratives;

True.  I would remind everyone that everything I wrote is conjecture and nothing more.

Quote:it's equally possible that there's a creator that created a universe for some other purpose, no afterlife included, that just happens to have complex life on it as an emergent property of the systems that creator put in place. Or life exists to serve a purpose that holds no benefit to the life itself; I've seen stories where human life in this world lives and dies to generate energy to fuel the magic system in some other world, that's not any more or less far fetched than an afterlife.

That too is possible.  I need remind the readers that I only mentioned the afterlife possibility because of my own experiences with spirits/ghosts. Also that finding proof of God in this current life has proven to be an elusive if not impossible task and that dying might present new possibilities of "God Identification."  There may not be any afterlife.  I'm fine with that as well.  Once again I'm brought back to the mere hope that God is real - not faith.  I believe that was the whole point of the Quandary thread.

Quote: Three, he's an artist or at least artistic on some level and loves creating beautiful amazing things.  A universe full of life with millions of intelligent species in it.  Artistic, creative people tend to be the kind of people I spend the majority of my time with.


Quote:Beauty is a highly subjective quality, why are you assuming that a god shares exactly human ideals of beauty to begin with?

I don't believe I am.  I have not seen any humans create anything that comes even close to the beauty that the universe offers.  That of course is arguable and subjective.  In addition, some assumptions have to be made in order to believe in anything that has no proof of existence.  Even I, in all my ambiguous ramblings, am forced to make some assumptions.



Quote: Four, God very likely wouldn't go by the name of 'God' and wouldn't subscribe to the petty human emotions that christards have assigned him ... not that I believe for a moment they would even be one in the same.


Quote:So, wait: god wouldn't be beholden to petty human emotions... but he would subscribe to human standards of beauty, and also their ideas of what he should do with them after they die?


No, not at all.  If I find something that you created beautiful, that doesn't mean that you in turn must've created it for my standards of beauty.  The two can remain mutually exclusive.  Regarding what he should or should not do with them after they die again has nothing to do with my personal interest in his doing so.  I offered up no reason or excuse for God to do anything, only how I would perceive those actions.  

Quote:Hopefully none of that comes across as too harsh? I mean it as a conversation starter, not an attack. Tongue



No not harsh at all.  I welcome the discussion.  I would encourage anyone to disagree with me.  I have no faith to be damaged and no word of god to defend.   Cool
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Quandary - by Cinjin - October 7, 2015 at 2:30 am
RE: Quandary - by Minimalist - October 7, 2015 at 2:38 am
RE: Quandary - by Losty - October 7, 2015 at 2:44 am
RE: Quandary - by ignoramus - October 7, 2015 at 3:03 am
RE: Quandary - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 4:11 am
RE: Quandary - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 7, 2015 at 4:38 am
RE: Quandary - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 6:16 am
RE: Quandary - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 7, 2015 at 11:30 am
RE: Quandary - by brewer - October 7, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Quandary - by RobbyPants - October 7, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Quandary - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 1:40 am
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 13, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Quandary - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 8, 2015 at 12:22 am
RE: Quandary - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 8, 2015 at 12:40 am
RE: Quandary - by Thumpalumpacus - October 8, 2015 at 12:42 am
RE: Quandary - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 8, 2015 at 12:49 am
RE: Quandary - by Thumpalumpacus - October 8, 2015 at 1:37 am
RE: Quandary - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2015 at 7:44 pm
RE: Quandary - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Quandary - by Neo-Scholastic - October 13, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 15, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 16, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: Quandary - by Simon Moon - October 16, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Quandary - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: Quandary - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 14, 2015 at 3:42 am
RE: Quandary - by Edwardo Piet - October 14, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Quandary - by robvalue - October 16, 2015 at 3:21 am
RE: Quandary - by Edwardo Piet - October 16, 2015 at 7:44 am
RE: Quandary - by The Grand Nudger - October 16, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 16, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Quandary - by robvalue - October 16, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 19, 2015 at 12:51 am
RE: Quandary - by robvalue - October 19, 2015 at 2:56 am
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 21, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Quandary - by Esquilax - October 22, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 23, 2015 at 8:05 pm
RE: Quandary - by Edwardo Piet - October 23, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 24, 2015 at 5:23 pm
RE: Quandary - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 25, 2015 at 1:00 am
RE: Quandary - by robvalue - October 22, 2015 at 3:46 am
RE: Quandary - by The Grand Nudger - October 24, 2015 at 6:52 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 25, 2015 at 12:43 am
RE: Quandary - by Lek - October 24, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Quandary - by Cinjin - October 25, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: Quandary - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2015 at 12:45 am
RE: Quandary - by The Grand Nudger - October 27, 2015 at 9:42 pm



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