RE: A question for evolustionists
December 10, 2010 at 6:47 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2010 at 7:07 pm by Violet.)
(December 9, 2010 at 1:10 pm)16three-john Wrote: So I made a thread on morality, and a reply concerning evolution really got me thinking...If evolution got us humans where we are today, why didn't all animals keep evolving until they're humans?
Evolution also got the dinosaurs where they are today (largely extinct) and the kangaroos where they are today. For the same reasons you question why the other animals evolve into our niche to become identical to us, i would question why we and other animals haven't evolved into the blue-footed-booby's niche (and become identical to them).
Quote:Also, why are humans the last stop on the evolutionary train?
I don't think humans are... would you notice the great variety of us? Short and tall, fat and anorexic, black and white, sugar-loving and sour-loving. However, we don't die off as much as we could be dying off (thank and fuck you medicine), so our 'species' isn't evolving along much of a clearcut way at all.
Quote:Why haven't humans evolved into 10 armed 3 headed super-humans?
That design is not currently viable without extensive modifications to our size and cranial capacity.... and even then: what would you do with 10 arms and three heads? There doesn't seem to be any particular use for the design, so it would be obsolete.
Quote:I just think that with so much body-enhancing things around today, that nature would have thought of it first, instead of its product (humans). Again, no twisting of answers or preaching is gonna come from me, promise
We are nature

(December 9, 2010 at 1:19 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: 1. There's no such thing as an "evolutionist" any more than there is a "gravityist".
I should hope people agree with evolution and gravity... so i certainly hope that there is such a thing as an evolutionist and gravitationist

Quote:2. Evolution is simply the observation that life changes over time to adapt to its environment. That's it. There is no assertion that all animals will always evolve into humans. There is no assertion that humans are the end point. There is, contrary to the X-men movies, no evolutionary move toward mutant powers. There's no "more evolved" or "less evolved". It's just life changes to suit the environment, period.
Hope that helps.
Mutant powers would certainly help our race propagate and survive... so there is actually a correlation between "mutant powers" and evolution... but many of those mutant powers are either impossible or so far off that they may as well be. The more effective a thing becomes at surviving, the more likely it is to still be around to reproduce... so if a being had some sort of "mutant powers" that made it more competent at surviving (and did not nullify its capacity to reproduce, of course), it is not a farfetched conclusion that it would be more likely to reproduce.
Evolution is rather that the lucky life changes to suit its environment... and the less lucky usually die to the environment (includes the denizens of the environment). In some environments, a design such as grandiose horns on the caribou and moose are greatly effective at helping it survive and attract mates. In another environment... those grandiose horns turn the caribou or moose into a target of human hunters that covet them.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day