Holy shit, dude. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many problems.
The first and most egregious one being where you conflate psychosomatic healing (the Placebo Effect) with actual magic and faith-efficacy. As you noted, faith in the efficacy of the doctors' magical medicine (which was neighter magical nor effective, in reality) was enough for this guy's brain to fool his body. There may be some amazing natural shit going on there, but it is neither magical nor proof of the "power of faith". Unless, of course, you think that Krebiozen is a god who grants magical powers. And the notion of "a strong man" casting out disease is beyond ridiculous... I knew you fundy-types had issues with scientific theories in general, but I didn't know you'd have such a weak grasp on Germ Theory!
Only slightly less weird is your sudden launch into the Alla-style "more on that later" type of discussion, like you can't let all the Deep Insights™ out at once. We know that you guys think "the serpent" was animated by the spirit of Satan the Accuser, rather than a normal, physical snake-with-legs-that-could-just-talk, even though that ignores the serpent-imagery/mythologies that were rampant in the Fertile Crescent at that point in history, and that likewise the Donkey was acting under the possession of an angelic spirit that animated it to talk. It's just... you guys just can't seem to tell the obvious (to us) difference between an allegory and a transcript!
The reason Sarai/Sarah was still lovely is because they were only middle-aged. She might've been past likely childbearing age, but certainly not "old" except by modern standards. You should know that. According to your mythology, Abram/Abraham lived to be 175, so being 90 would be roughly 52% of his total lifespan, or roughly equivalent to my age, now (I am 39, with an average life-expectancy of 76 years, putting me at 52% of my total lifespan). My Beloved is still pretty attractive, as am I, no?
I can and do deny that the Bible made any claims about Relativity. Stating that God is outside of causal time is not exactly a surprise; I'd be surprised, rather, if they did not attach such a superlative to their descriptions of their tribe's Ultimate Alpha Male! (What you prefer to call God.) You are indeed reading into things that do not demonstrate a causal link at all, let alone proof of causation... in a fairly amazing amount, I'd say.
The first and most egregious one being where you conflate psychosomatic healing (the Placebo Effect) with actual magic and faith-efficacy. As you noted, faith in the efficacy of the doctors' magical medicine (which was neighter magical nor effective, in reality) was enough for this guy's brain to fool his body. There may be some amazing natural shit going on there, but it is neither magical nor proof of the "power of faith". Unless, of course, you think that Krebiozen is a god who grants magical powers. And the notion of "a strong man" casting out disease is beyond ridiculous... I knew you fundy-types had issues with scientific theories in general, but I didn't know you'd have such a weak grasp on Germ Theory!
Only slightly less weird is your sudden launch into the Alla-style "more on that later" type of discussion, like you can't let all the Deep Insights™ out at once. We know that you guys think "the serpent" was animated by the spirit of Satan the Accuser, rather than a normal, physical snake-with-legs-that-could-just-talk, even though that ignores the serpent-imagery/mythologies that were rampant in the Fertile Crescent at that point in history, and that likewise the Donkey was acting under the possession of an angelic spirit that animated it to talk. It's just... you guys just can't seem to tell the obvious (to us) difference between an allegory and a transcript!
The reason Sarai/Sarah was still lovely is because they were only middle-aged. She might've been past likely childbearing age, but certainly not "old" except by modern standards. You should know that. According to your mythology, Abram/Abraham lived to be 175, so being 90 would be roughly 52% of his total lifespan, or roughly equivalent to my age, now (I am 39, with an average life-expectancy of 76 years, putting me at 52% of my total lifespan). My Beloved is still pretty attractive, as am I, no?
I can and do deny that the Bible made any claims about Relativity. Stating that God is outside of causal time is not exactly a surprise; I'd be surprised, rather, if they did not attach such a superlative to their descriptions of their tribe's Ultimate Alpha Male! (What you prefer to call God.) You are indeed reading into things that do not demonstrate a causal link at all, let alone proof of causation... in a fairly amazing amount, I'd say.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
