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Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist
(October 28, 2015 at 3:31 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:
(October 28, 2015 at 3:28 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Why are you entering into a discussion with me in bad faith by assuming that I haven't?

You mentioned the empty tomb once already here, and that's a perfect example of what I'm talking about: that's apologists literally going "hey look! Nothing!" and then suggesting that this literal empty space is evidence for their miracle claim somehow.

it wasn't just the empty tomb that convinced them; they claimed that they saw and touched and ate with Him
then the church exploded because you had these people saying Jesus was raised from the dead and then dying for what they believed



Circular logic is circular.

You are claiming the Bible is true, and you are using the Bible as evidence for that claim. 

If you are unable to see the problem with that, time to read a book on basic logic.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist - by sinnerdaniel94 - October 27, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist - by The Valkyrie - October 27, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist - by I_am_not_mafia - October 28, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist - by Esquilax - October 28, 2015 at 11:11 am
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RE: Dr. Donald Whitaker - Ex Atheist - by sinnerdaniel94 - October 27, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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