(October 29, 2015 at 9:07 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Look up the term jurisdiction.OK. First two from dictionary.com
1. the right, power, or authority to administer justice by hearing and determining controversies
2. power; authority; control
So, God has jurisdiction over everyone, as he has power over everyone.
Quote:A judge must establish that he has the right and the legal authority to even speak about the law on a case.
According to the definition you had me look up, power is sufficient, and god has that. I'd argue he has the other two as well, but power is enough.
Quote:We have established to you why the God described in your story could never lawfully serve as a judge... let alone as the legislature (maker of laws), cops (watches for breaking the law), judge (pronounces sentence for violation), and executioner (carries out the sentence) all-in-one.
God is portrayed as a king. Judgment is within the role of king.
Quote:When you say "god is the judge"
Did I say that? I'm old fashioned - to me quotation marks mean a direct quote. Consider using italics for paraphrases.
Quote:you are presuming that we have cause to believe that your judge 1) exists,No, in a thread on atheists' knowledge of religion, the question is your understanding, not your acceptance.
Quote:2) has legitimate jurisdiction,He does, as noted above.
Quote:3) and makes the rules as you say,Again, it's a question of knowledge of religion, not acceptance.
Quote:4) has a requirement to equate whatever we do with the act of murder, for which the only punishment is torture and then death if we do not suck the judge's dick.Do you never ask someone's forgiveness? If you do, do you actually suck their dick? It's odd that atheists characterize it as such, or as kissing ass.
Quote:I mean, um, confess our sins and declare him master. My bad.Seems like a good deal to me.
Quote:Your God concept is not only a moral quagmire, it's patently ridiculous, no matter how you spin it.If it were patently ridiculous, it wouldn't have so many followers.
Quote:Seriously, in your version, all the murderer has to do is blow the judge and walk free...No, just ask forgivenss and walk free. Again, I suppose atheists find asking for forgiveness to be extremely objectionable, since they frequently characterize it as sucking dick or kissing ass.
Quote:while I get shot for my traffic ticket because I won't suck it.You won't be the one deciding if it was just a traffic ticket.
Guess what, if you let the criminals decide whether they're guilty, or what their sentence should be, the prisons will be mostly empty.