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Anarchy
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RE: Anarchy
(March 4, 2009 at 6:24 am)Tiberius Wrote: Can you expand on that a bit? You're saying you don't believe in the right to life? It's a bit odd to meet someone who doesn't believe in "rights", without them society would surely fall apart.

Not really ... I believe in responsibilities, so rights devolve from responsibility and there are no inalienable rights.

IOW I have the responsibility to grant you freedom of speech and you have the right to freedom of speech because (in principle) I and everyone else actually does "grant you" that privilege (as you do to them) ... so your "rights" are the sum total of those which a given society grants you and none can be inalienable (though arguably some should be but that's probably just my liberalist mindset).

I suppose it's just a different way of looking at it ... the thing about a "rights" based society is that there is no specific need to engender the idea that if you (as a member of a society) have a specific right then you so does everyone else and is your responsibility to ensure others have it (as it evident in the mindset of many that believe they have certain rights yet fail to accept others have the same ... theists are often masters of this idea). If we taught the idea that we are responsible (personally so) for granting others various rights then people might start to understand the implications of rights & responsibilities.

It's one of the reasons I don't entirely buy into the idea that terrorists and criminals (for example) have the same rights as everyone else, in essence because they have failed to provide those same rights to others.

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Messages In This Thread
Anarchy - by atrasicarius - March 2, 2009 at 1:55 am
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 2, 2009 at 6:01 am
RE: Anarchy - by atrasicarius - March 2, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 2, 2009 at 5:32 pm
RE: Anarchy - by atrasicarius - March 2, 2009 at 7:58 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 3, 2009 at 5:47 am
RE: Anarchy - by bozo - March 3, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 4, 2009 at 5:26 am
RE: Anarchy - by bozo - March 4, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 5, 2009 at 8:09 am
RE: Anarchy - by bozo - March 5, 2009 at 1:02 pm
RE: Anarchy - by bozo - March 6, 2009 at 10:41 am
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 6, 2009 at 11:24 am
RE: Anarchy - by bozo - March 6, 2009 at 1:05 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 9, 2009 at 8:50 am
RE: Anarchy - by Tiberius - March 2, 2009 at 6:29 am
RE: Anarchy - by atrasicarius - March 2, 2009 at 3:12 pm
RE: Anarchy - by dagda - March 2, 2009 at 12:43 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Eilonnwy - March 2, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Tiberius - March 2, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Giff - March 3, 2009 at 11:48 am
RE: Anarchy - by Tiberius - March 3, 2009 at 12:16 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 3, 2009 at 6:06 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Tiberius - March 3, 2009 at 7:30 pm
RE: Anarchy - by padraic - March 3, 2009 at 7:55 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Tiberius - March 3, 2009 at 8:26 pm
RE: Anarchy - by padraic - March 3, 2009 at 10:35 pm
RE: Anarchy - by atrasicarius - March 4, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Edwardo Piet - March 3, 2009 at 8:58 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Tiberius - March 3, 2009 at 9:48 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Edwardo Piet - March 4, 2009 at 5:38 am
RE: Anarchy - by Tiberius - March 4, 2009 at 6:24 am
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 4, 2009 at 7:50 am
RE: Anarchy - by Giff - March 5, 2009 at 8:09 am
RE: Anarchy - by Kyuuketsuki - March 5, 2009 at 8:10 am
RE: Anarchy - by Giff - March 6, 2009 at 9:10 am
RE: Anarchy - by atrasicarius - March 6, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RE: Anarchy - by Giff - March 9, 2009 at 8:14 am

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