Drich - Now is not the time to start pretending you give a shit about logical fallacies and intellectual integrity!
Does it make you feel powerful to talk like that to people? It just strikes me as sad.
As others have explained to you, already, Ehrman is far, far from the only top-level expert who agrees with that position; outside of fundamentalist circles (where they start out with the prejudiced notion that they cannot accept any conclusion that goes against their particular ideas about the literal meaning of the Biblical texts, as presented, and will always try to take the earliest possible date for books), the overwhelming scholarly consensus is in accord with what Ehrman teaches. If you think the reason I appeal to him is only because he is an expert, then you have never read another post of mine outside of your own threads.
You have made a poor case, and sneering at the top experts while you present your poor case doesn't help.
If I thought that you'd be honest about any discussion that would ensue between us over the subject, I'd be glad to go into it with you... but I have already seen how much you just enjoy slinging accusations at us while dodging the same hard questions, yourself, because you don't believe anything we say, or believe in our good intentions, either. Simply put, I do not think you have the character or integrity to waste my time doing more than laughing at you, or pointing out your most egregious errors (particularly, as tends to be my habit, when you make false claims about atheism or science, because while I don't give a crap about what you think of the answers, I don't want your self-important drivel to damage the minds of passers by), so this is all you get, pal.
The fact that you think the people with the agenda must include Christian scholars as well as men like Dr. Ehrman, and that you can only make the claims you make by saying that everyone outside your own incestuous thought-circles in the world of fundamentalist "scholarship" is part of that agenda, is the simplest and most concise way I could have pointed out that you are full of crap--no in-depth reporting necessary to spot that one!--and is just plain sad.
The fact that you think what you wrote presents some sort of original challenge or novel argument, or in any other way constituted a valid position or objection, is so sad it just depresses me for you.
Does it make you feel powerful to talk like that to people? It just strikes me as sad.
As others have explained to you, already, Ehrman is far, far from the only top-level expert who agrees with that position; outside of fundamentalist circles (where they start out with the prejudiced notion that they cannot accept any conclusion that goes against their particular ideas about the literal meaning of the Biblical texts, as presented, and will always try to take the earliest possible date for books), the overwhelming scholarly consensus is in accord with what Ehrman teaches. If you think the reason I appeal to him is only because he is an expert, then you have never read another post of mine outside of your own threads.
You have made a poor case, and sneering at the top experts while you present your poor case doesn't help.
If I thought that you'd be honest about any discussion that would ensue between us over the subject, I'd be glad to go into it with you... but I have already seen how much you just enjoy slinging accusations at us while dodging the same hard questions, yourself, because you don't believe anything we say, or believe in our good intentions, either. Simply put, I do not think you have the character or integrity to waste my time doing more than laughing at you, or pointing out your most egregious errors (particularly, as tends to be my habit, when you make false claims about atheism or science, because while I don't give a crap about what you think of the answers, I don't want your self-important drivel to damage the minds of passers by), so this is all you get, pal.
The fact that you think the people with the agenda must include Christian scholars as well as men like Dr. Ehrman, and that you can only make the claims you make by saying that everyone outside your own incestuous thought-circles in the world of fundamentalist "scholarship" is part of that agenda, is the simplest and most concise way I could have pointed out that you are full of crap--no in-depth reporting necessary to spot that one!--and is just plain sad.
The fact that you think what you wrote presents some sort of original challenge or novel argument, or in any other way constituted a valid position or objection, is so sad it just depresses me for you.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
