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Criticizing Islam is racist?
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RE: Criticizing Islam is racist?
(November 2, 2015 at 7:04 pm)abaris Wrote:
(November 2, 2015 at 6:44 pm)MTL Wrote: I have been called a racist because I don't like Islam,
but nobody calls me a racist for disliking Christianity.

It all depends on the choice of words and meaning. When I'm vocal about any religion, I talk about the religion and not the people believing in that particular religion. Unless they are radicals. There are a great many rightwing movements, making it their business to throw the blanket over all muslims to cash in some political dime by pointing to a commong enemy. In that sense it's much like antisemitism in the 20ies and 30ies. Present a scapegoat and offer an easy solution to all the problems you're facing. Among these groups the so called Sweden Democrats. I highly suspect that OP is influenced by their hate mongering, but I can't be sure.

I'm not completely buying into this distinguishing between Islam and Muslims thing.

If there were no Muslims there wouldn't be any Islam.

if there were no Christians there wouldn't be any Christianity.

If someone is member of a golf club that is restricted and doesn't allow non-whites to become members,
but that person tells you that they didn't make the rules,
they only joined the club because of the good lunch menu and free parking,
you would still hold them accountable for being members of a club that is bad at its core.

I fully allow that there are non-extreme Muslims and non-extreme Christians.

I know there are both good AND bad people who are Theists,
and both good AND bad people who are Atheists, too.

If people believe in God without adhering to ANY religion or dogma,
I have no problem with that;


But if you feel the need to align yourself with a club (religion)
then no matter how good a person you are,
I am going to, on some level,
assume that you tolerate or condone the evils done by that club.

EDIT:

I am also speaking specifically about being a member of a club that you could just as easily ignore
(as opposed to being a citizen of a country, for instance,
rather than face the daunting prospect of becoming Stateless;
or voting for the political party that you feel is LEAST harmful to your country,
rather than forego your vote, altogether).

Religion is not necessary.

And, religion is also usually highly flawed,
...especially for something that claims to be in service of the Divine.

Therefore I have little patience with anyone consenting to be a member of it.
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Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - May 19, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by vorlon13 - May 19, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Minimalist - May 19, 2014 at 10:16 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Marsellus Wallace - May 19, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by mralstoner - May 19, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - May 19, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Coffee Jesus - May 22, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - May 22, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Coffee Jesus - May 20, 2014 at 1:01 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by progamz - May 20, 2014 at 2:38 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 20, 2014 at 3:30 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 20, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by KichigaiNeko - May 20, 2014 at 3:59 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 20, 2014 at 5:02 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - May 20, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by viocjit - May 20, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - May 20, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Minimalist - May 20, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by professor - May 20, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - May 20, 2014 at 9:51 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Coffee Jesus - May 21, 2014 at 6:48 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by BoS - May 22, 2014 at 8:52 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by sven - May 22, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by progamz - May 22, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by The Valkyrie - May 22, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by GoHalos1993 - November 1, 2015 at 5:25 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by The Valkyrie - November 1, 2015 at 5:29 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Minimalist - November 1, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Drich - November 1, 2015 at 1:32 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MysticKnight - November 2, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by ignoramus - November 2, 2015 at 5:14 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 2, 2015 at 6:08 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 2, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 3, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by paulpablo - November 2, 2015 at 6:32 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 2, 2015 at 6:42 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Faith No More - November 2, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 2, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 3, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Minimalist - November 2, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Cecelia - November 2, 2015 at 5:28 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 2, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 2, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 2, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 2, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 2, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 2, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2015 at 1:54 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 8:50 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Minimalist - November 2, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MysticKnight - November 3, 2015 at 12:32 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 3, 2015 at 7:35 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Anomalocaris - November 3, 2015 at 9:07 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by vorlon13 - November 3, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by vorlon13 - November 3, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Jaxxie1181 - November 3, 2015 at 11:50 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by TaraJo - November 3, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 3, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 3, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 3, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 3, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 3, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 3, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 3, 2015 at 5:26 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 3, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 4, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 5, 2015 at 3:31 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 5, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Minimalist - November 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 4, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 3, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 3, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by paulpablo - November 3, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 3, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 4, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 4, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 4, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 4, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 3, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2015 at 10:06 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 11:22 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2015 at 3:09 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 4, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by robvalue - November 3, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 3, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2015 at 12:25 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 4, 2015 at 1:14 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2015 at 1:28 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by ignoramus - November 4, 2015 at 2:32 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 5, 2015 at 11:09 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2015 at 2:48 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by robvalue - November 4, 2015 at 4:26 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 4, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 4, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 4, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 5, 2015 at 4:29 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 5, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 5, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 5, 2015 at 4:49 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 4, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 4, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 5, 2015 at 4:34 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by abaris - November 5, 2015 at 4:50 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by MTL - November 5, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Rhondazvous - November 4, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 5, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 5, 2015 at 7:44 pm
RE: Criticizing Islam is racist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 5, 2015 at 8:33 pm

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