RE: Christians - even the Bible says that Jesus was not God so why do you say he was ?
November 3, 2015 at 9:07 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2015 at 9:10 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(November 3, 2015 at 6:11 am)houseofcantor Wrote: Girl doesn't seem to have a viewpoint outside of Christian theology, yet she ain't Christian? I'm not seeing where she needs a white knight. And I'm not seeing where we need to hear about your IQ again either.
HoC - Most people in our culture don't have a viewpoint outside of Christian theology, because it pervades our society in ways often too subtle to realize until they've been absorbed. It's only obvious "from the outside".
My IQ became relevant because this guy was implying that it was some fault on our part that caused us to be unable to decipher his writing, rather than owning the "word salad" problem to which he had admitted, initially; citing my intelligence and verbal comprehension scores was relevant to establishing that even the top of the bell-curve (which position Jenny may or may not share) cannot do so, and thus the fault must lie in the encoder. I understood it, but not easily. That is because it is poorly written, and thus Jenny did not earn the contempt with which he attacked her.
As to the "white knight" issue... if you have not noticed, thus far, that is one of my defining characteristics. My own best friend says I need to learn how to not be a Crusader, on occasion.
Edit to Add: And lately, I have noticed that the tone of the two atheism boards which I frequent have become increasingly hostile and aggressive toward people who are religious, playing into the "angry atheists" mantra of the most aggressive fundies who come here. It is my intention to continue to foster friendship "across the aisle" and not-so-subtly remind people that simply lashing out against the religious makes us no better than the people we despise most, who come here primarily to berate us.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.