(November 3, 2015 at 5:10 pm)abaris Wrote:(November 3, 2015 at 5:05 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: You know on a lot of points we agree. And I actually agree that the rhetoric is eerily similar too the anti Semitic rhetoric of the early 20th century. Here is a big difference though. The Jews of the 30s were mostly quite moderate and modern for the Time. However the difference is now that we have extremists in the Muslim camp that are rarely condemned by other Muslims.
Stop right there. Their condemnation just isn't as newsworthy as the actual attacks. But it is there, after every attack, and can be found, if you're not only looking for juicy headlines.
I'm the last to defend radicalism. It's revolting in every aspect. But as a member of a Holocaust survivor family, I take a very big issue with condemning any given group for what their radicals do. Even more so, if facts and figures can be easily looked up. Only 4 percent of terrorist attacks in the EU and only 5 percent of attacks in the USA are religiously motivated. According to Europol and FBI statistics in the public domain. And that's not even singling out Islamist terror. Only religious terror.
What I'm actually saying is I agree with you. We could debate those statistics maybe but its pointless, because your right. What I am saying is that these get attention for what is hate speech and then call anyone that condemns them racist. So while I think Islam is a vile religion, I think most muslims are basically decent people that wonna get by like the rest of us. The point I'm getting at is that their radicals are just feeding into the bigots hate, and giving the right wingers more ammunition in the public sphere to push their influence and that's good for nobody.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
