(November 4, 2015 at 10:10 am)Evie Wrote:(November 4, 2015 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote: Paul in that statement is not refering to the bible. Because when He wrote this their wasn't a bible for those type of people. Paul is talking about the intrinsic sence of right and wrong god placed in all of us. Paul is saying because 'EVIL People' ignore their initial sense of wrong doing, and they embraced their sin, God turned them over to their sin meaning to them their 'evil' becomes moral and right, and the things of God become evil. that is why they so willing embrace the list of Evil things he goes on to list.
First of all: God didn't place any intrinsic sense of right and wrong in any of us because he'd have to exist first - and why the fuck would we need it to know right from wrong when genetic biological + memetic cultural/The moral zeitgeist + empathy + compassion is enough without God?
Second of all: What the fuck? God apparently decided that the best thing to do with "evil people" is to make their evil become moral and right to them? If that was the case it would seem he was trying to encourage so-called "evil people" to "be evil" by doing evil deeds. Sounds like the skyddady is naught but fucktarded.
Let me see if I have the finer points of your arguement down
First of all Their is no God!
Second of all Why did God do this?!?!?
Since we both seem to agree (by the nature of your 2nd question) God does exist, I will ignore statement 1 and answer question 2
This life in not about living a perfect life as we will find out if we can finish this study. This life has been given to us away from the known glory of God inorder for us to make a heart felt choice about where we want to spend eternity. God does not want to convince or sway anyone. He only wants the people who want to be with Him for eternity to seek the redemption needed, and for everyone else when they are sent to Hell, He wants them to know that they are their because in truth they wanted to be seperated from God for eternity. Turning evil people over to their sin ensures that those who are sent to hell know that is what they chose and that is where they belong.
